state laws and not just sunshine. they have to show the cause there. they would have done that. so the hearing process already done. the evidence is there. the show-cause is this. it's already in the minutes and already in the orders of determination. no need to repeat it. i think what is important here is [buzzer] after all of that is said and done, your deliberations is what is the enforcement. first get them to do what they were supposed to do. and if they don't do it, that could be considered willful failure and you can move forward. okay, am i making sense? >> you are. except when we met, this was the compromise situation we came to. we were not willing just to enforce. but the idea that we give the task force the presumption, have a show-cause hearing at which the respondent would be required and have the burden of proof to show why a violation did not occur. and then we would make a decision. so you know, i understand your point. and you made that argument when we met. and i respect it. but the decision that we as the commission made, we were going to have this kind of pr